Shannar
2006-07-11 20:22:52 UTC
Достаточно интересная попытка сделать нетмейл/"личные сообщения". Пока-что
весьма кривая, но работы идут...
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Пишет Brad Fitzpatrick ([info]bradfitz) в [info]lj_dev @ 2006-07-07 00:08:00
*LiveJournal-integrated Jabber*
A lot of you have noticed that we wrote a Jabber server, djabberd, and thus it
should come as no surprise that we're launching a LiveJournal-integrated Jabber
service.
Consider this a pre-announcement of sorts, getting the right information out to
the technical crowd so you guys and gals can spread it accurately going
forward. It's also a call for beta testers.
But first, some details:
-- Your JID is ***@livejournal.com
-- Your password is your LJ password
-- your Jabber Roster ("buddy list") is integrated with your LJ friends list.
If you friend bob and bob friends you, both of you can see each other online.
It has to be mutual. Friends that haven't friended you back show up as "pending
subscription" in your jabber client, kinda grayed out, depending on the client.
-- if you add a LJ person in Jabber, it won't automatically friend them on the
site, but next time you use the site, it'll prompt if you want to. It's
imaginable there's people you want to chat with, but not befriend. Our strategy
is "least surprises".
-- We have SSL suport, but we're not enabling it, at least not right away, but
the auth is challenge/response w/ anti-replay stuff in it, so people can sniff
your conversations, but not your login info. So SSL isn't required. With iChat,
you have to explicitly turn it off. Justification: lot of CPU overhead for
little gain, especially as clients often use OTR for end-to-end encryption.
-- Any Avatar (userpic) you advertise in your JEP-0153-compliant Jabber client
will be overwritten by the server, replaced with your LJ userpic. For now this
is your default LJ userpic, but maybe in the future we'll let you pick which
one to use. The advantage of this is that if you don't have an
Avatar-supporting Jabber client, other people (like people using iChat or
Pandion) will still see your userpic.
-- yes, we'll be federating. you'll be able to talk to GMail/Gtalk users,
jabber.org users, etc. Anybody else using Jabber will just work, without
special business relationships, just like email works. That said, the
LJ-integrated roster plugin isn't entirely fleshed out, so it doesn't totally
work yet because of hooks we haven't implemented. s2s does work reliably,
though, as we've been using it personally and at work for awhile now.
-- no, we won't be running transports for AIM/ICQ/Yahoo/MSN/etc. If they want
to play nice, they can support Jabber/XMPP. Although we technically can bridge
into them, it's legally questionable and they can just shut us down whenever
they want.
-- you'll be able to get ESN alerts over Jabber, including non-LiveJournal
JIDs. So you can get notifications of new comments to, say, GTalk JIDs. This
isn't live on the site. In fact, ESN limited launch only happened just today,
so it'll be a bit before it's open to the public.
-- we'll be running bots that let you post/etc from Jabber, as well as get ESN
alerts.
That said, try it out. It's up and running, but consider it an
alpha/in-development service. As the warning message says when you log in, it's
very new (the LJ bridging stuff) and the whole thing will be going up and down
over the next few weeks as we finish it up. We just want more testers early.
Clients known to work:
-- iChat
-- Adium
-- Trillian (Pro Only)
-- gaim
-- Pandion
-- Psi
Update:
-- Miranda
-- SIM-IM
-- Kopete
-- Tkabber
Enjoy!
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http://community.livejournal.com/lj_dev/716451.html
весьма кривая, но работы идут...
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Пишет Brad Fitzpatrick ([info]bradfitz) в [info]lj_dev @ 2006-07-07 00:08:00
*LiveJournal-integrated Jabber*
A lot of you have noticed that we wrote a Jabber server, djabberd, and thus it
should come as no surprise that we're launching a LiveJournal-integrated Jabber
service.
Consider this a pre-announcement of sorts, getting the right information out to
the technical crowd so you guys and gals can spread it accurately going
forward. It's also a call for beta testers.
But first, some details:
-- Your JID is ***@livejournal.com
-- Your password is your LJ password
-- your Jabber Roster ("buddy list") is integrated with your LJ friends list.
If you friend bob and bob friends you, both of you can see each other online.
It has to be mutual. Friends that haven't friended you back show up as "pending
subscription" in your jabber client, kinda grayed out, depending on the client.
-- if you add a LJ person in Jabber, it won't automatically friend them on the
site, but next time you use the site, it'll prompt if you want to. It's
imaginable there's people you want to chat with, but not befriend. Our strategy
is "least surprises".
-- We have SSL suport, but we're not enabling it, at least not right away, but
the auth is challenge/response w/ anti-replay stuff in it, so people can sniff
your conversations, but not your login info. So SSL isn't required. With iChat,
you have to explicitly turn it off. Justification: lot of CPU overhead for
little gain, especially as clients often use OTR for end-to-end encryption.
-- Any Avatar (userpic) you advertise in your JEP-0153-compliant Jabber client
will be overwritten by the server, replaced with your LJ userpic. For now this
is your default LJ userpic, but maybe in the future we'll let you pick which
one to use. The advantage of this is that if you don't have an
Avatar-supporting Jabber client, other people (like people using iChat or
Pandion) will still see your userpic.
-- yes, we'll be federating. you'll be able to talk to GMail/Gtalk users,
jabber.org users, etc. Anybody else using Jabber will just work, without
special business relationships, just like email works. That said, the
LJ-integrated roster plugin isn't entirely fleshed out, so it doesn't totally
work yet because of hooks we haven't implemented. s2s does work reliably,
though, as we've been using it personally and at work for awhile now.
-- no, we won't be running transports for AIM/ICQ/Yahoo/MSN/etc. If they want
to play nice, they can support Jabber/XMPP. Although we technically can bridge
into them, it's legally questionable and they can just shut us down whenever
they want.
-- you'll be able to get ESN alerts over Jabber, including non-LiveJournal
JIDs. So you can get notifications of new comments to, say, GTalk JIDs. This
isn't live on the site. In fact, ESN limited launch only happened just today,
so it'll be a bit before it's open to the public.
-- we'll be running bots that let you post/etc from Jabber, as well as get ESN
alerts.
That said, try it out. It's up and running, but consider it an
alpha/in-development service. As the warning message says when you log in, it's
very new (the LJ bridging stuff) and the whole thing will be going up and down
over the next few weeks as we finish it up. We just want more testers early.
Clients known to work:
-- iChat
-- Adium
-- Trillian (Pro Only)
-- gaim
-- Pandion
-- Psi
Update:
-- Miranda
-- SIM-IM
-- Kopete
-- Tkabber
Enjoy!
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